Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/06/Category:Women looking left
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Please look at Category:Women looking left. If the category means women looking to her left and not our left, why are most of the pictures shows women looking her right? I think this is confusing. Her right is our left, so pictures should be placed in the "Category:Women looking right" category. In the same way, for Category:Women looking right, women looking to her right, then every picture in the category should only show the same direction.
To put it simply, "left" and " right" are ambiguous or unclear. Also, the same problem also exists in Category:Women pointing left and Category:Women pointing right.--125.230.81.224 12:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- For example, File:Geneva MotorShow 2013 - Skoda hostess 2.jpg shows a woman looking her right, but it be placed in Category:Women looking left. So should we rename the category?--125.230.81.224 12:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Comment all the "left" and "right" categories appear to as seen by the viewer (not the viewpoint of the person or thing in the photo or illustration). Where it is ambiguous, a hat note should be sufficient to address that. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 13:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Did you mean to say that the "Women looking left" category refer to women looking viewer's left? If yes, the naming should be more precise should be more precise to avoid confusing users or misapplication in other situations. Because my understanding of the category is that women looking her left and not viewer's left. I suggest renaming to something like Category:Women looking their left or Category:Women looking viewer's left.--125.230.81.224 15:24, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete not a defining characteristic of a woman. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe not of a woman in general, but it is a characteristic of the particular image of her, and that's what we are categorizing. Josh (talk) 00:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Josh, however the cat name should be clear such as "Women looking to their left" –
Move Prototyperspective (talk) 11:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC) - Comment All of the "left" and "right" categories on Commons are as seen by the viewer. So "Women looking to viewer's left" would maintain that; if this category is renamed, that's what it should be (or a similar variation). "Women looking to their left" would reverse it and be contrary to the existing parent categories. Perspectives from the person (or animal or object?) would be a separate category tree. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Josh, however the cat name should be clear such as "Women looking to their left" –
- Maybe not of a woman in general, but it is a characteristic of the particular image of her, and that's what we are categorizing. Josh (talk) 00:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment See previous CfDs which covered some of this ground
- Josh (talk) 00:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment What should the category be renamed? "Women looking to viewer's left"? Any better suggestions? -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)